The link to the recording of the meeting is unavailable.
Good morning, Forum. I’m Denise Davis your moderator. Ronda Tycer is our Forum recap editor. And John Crockett is our tech guru—and recent birthday celebrant. As a reminder, our meeting is being recorded. Before you begin speaking, please state your name. For those here in the room, please come up to the microphones. Because of the room’s acoustics we can’t hear you unless you’re within a foot or two of the microphones. While speaking, please be respectful. Personal attacks will not be tolerated. For those online, if you’d like to share URLs, post them in the Chat Box and they’ll be included at the end of the meeting recap. We partner with IVCB Community 1s.t.org and IVCBA.org to get information out. So be sure to visit their websites and sign up for their newsletters. To sign up for Forum meeting notices and recaps, send an email to us at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Sara Schmitz – Incline Village General Improvement District Trustee, IVCB Community 1st Director
This week IVGID sent out a new Trustee Board meeting summary that reviews the actions taken by the Board at the meeting Wednesday August 31. You can sign up to receive the IVGID Board meeting reviews as well as emails and newsletters at: communications@IVGID.org.
I will make announcements while we wait for the technical difficulties to be resolved. All the URLs I mention will be in the Chat Box of the recap.
• The Washoe County Board of Commissioners (BCC) will meet September 13.
• The Board of Adjustment September meeting has been cancelled.
• The BCC has declared September National Emergency Preparedness month.
• Road crews are working on Highway 28. They are also working on the nail walls near the East Shore Trail. The trail will be closed Sunday through Thursday nights from 8 pm to 6 am. We have no updated schedule for road construction.
• The Washoe Citizen Advisory Board (CAB) will meet Tuesday Sept 6 online at 5:30.
• The CAB Board Alternate position is still open. You can find the application online.
• The Tahoe Transportation District (TTD) Program Implementation Committee will meet Sept 8.
• The Tahoe Regional Planning Agency (TRPA) Advisory Planning Committee (APC) will meet Sept 14. Crystal Bay resident Judith Simon serves on the APC.
• The TRPA Hearings Officer meeting will be Sept 15. TRPA holds two Hearing Officer meetings per month to address submitted applications.
• There will be a Special TTD/C Board meeting Sept 16.
• The TTD Incline Village Mobility Hub Committee is scheduled to meet on September 26. I spoke with TTD’s Carl Hasty who said the last meeting was cancelled because they had no new items to discuss. They have sent out a Request For Proposals (RFP) to do the site study for the mobility hub at the Old Incline Elementary School (OES).
• Washoe County has an update on the Monkeypox virus. Go to washoecounty.gov/monkeypox.
• The Kings Beach drone show is Sept 2. The Tahoe City drone show will be Sept 4th.
• Washoe County Human Services Agency’s Senior Services Division is sponsoring their annual Senior Fest at the Reno Town Mall Tuesday Sept 6 from 9am to 6pm — the day after Labor Day. If you haven’t been before, it’s all about services seniors need. My husband has gone in the past. There will be 60 vendors who will be providing services to promote healthy aging and wellness. If you can’t make it this year, put it on your calendar for next year. It’s all things of interest to seniors.
• The upcoming CAB meeting will feature Washoe County General Manager Eric Brown. He is seeking feedback about the County’s revamped CAB format. In the past, our CAB discussed planning, development, and building issues. But this changed last year, and the CAB no longer discusses these issues. If you have a concern or comment, be sure to weigh in at the meeting.
Consultant Amy Cummings from Parametrix will also be at the CAB to discuss the Incline Village Transportation Study she is conducting on line. If you have comments you can make them on the survey website.
Assistant County Manager Dave Solaro will also be at the CAB to talk about WC’s traffic-calming policy. Kathie Julian reported that Pam Straley was biking on the Truckee River Trail bike path when she was hit by an electric biker and is now in the hospital. This is a reminder that e-bikes are hazardous.
Jack Dalton, MD – Incline Village Resident
My daughter was hit by a bike, too, but she’s okay.
They need to Inform Washoe County of the accident. They run on statistics.
Jack Dalton, MD
I did let Washoe County know.
Good. The County runs on stats. So we need to keep reporting and carry on.
[We still don’t have sound from the people on Zoom. We can’t hear them.]
Even though they can’t hear me, I’d like to report for the recap. The General Manager has implemented a new communications email giving highlights of the Board meeting. When you click on the link to subscribe for future highlights, there’s a problem with the link, which they are in process of fixing. I will send out all this information in our IVCB Community 1st newsletter and let people know how and where to sign up. We will hold a Special Trustee meeting focused on RFID gantries for Diamond Peak and looking at the Diamond Peak contract and also an update on the Recreation expansion.
I was also at the EKN presentation on the Resort at Tahoe and Residences (formerly Boulder Bay) and will be giving the highlights of that meeting in the IVCB Community 1st newsletter.
Corey Solferino – Washoe County Sheriff Office Captain
I apologize for the inconveniences caused by the unexpected Highway 28 shutdown. The Thunderbird Lodge caretaker found some sticks of dynamite that had been unearthed by wildlife. We shut down the Highway out of an abundance of caution while our ordinance team addressed removal of the dynamite. I just wanted to mention this to dispel any conspiracy theories. It looked like it had been there since the 1970s or early 1980s.
Jack Dalton, MD
I’m concerned about the Recreation Center expansion. I learned about it second hand. What is the process of scheduling public meetings for it?
The Washoe County neighborhood meeting for the Recreation Center expansion was postponed and will be rescheduled. The neighborhood meeting will still be held.
Jack Dalton, MD
I think the Recreation Center expansion affects the whole community, not just a neighborhood.
The meeting is open to all who want to attend.
Jack Dalton, MD
Well, it will affect the whole community. I could understand [a neighborhood meeting] if it were small, but this has a potential impact on the entire community.
They are termed “neighborhood meetings,” but they are open to the entire community.
This is a misuse of language. You might think this is a small neighborhood thing. The first time it was cancelled because the staff wasn’t prepared to answer community questions. If you advertise it for a limited neighborhood…
I can’t apologize for the County’s language. They are required to have a neighborhood meeting. If anyone is notified, we’ll post the information. I’m just telling you the process.
Linda Offerdahl – Incline Village Crystal Bay Community and Business Association Executive Director
In Incline Village this weekend the Rotary is sponsoring its annual “Duck Drop.” It is selling tickets to enter the rubber duck drop. You might recall we had the rubber duckies during past 4th of July events. The Rotary is organizing the duck drop in conjunction with the North Lake Tahoe Fire Protection District (NLTFPD). It will bring one of its fire engines to the Village Green and hoist all the sold rubber duckies. Then it it will drop the ducks. Again this will be held on the Village Green on September 5th between 9-10:30am.
Also, you may recall the Village Ski Loft always had a Labor Day tent sale. They’re no longer having it in the lower parking lot but will have it in the upper parking lot. Now Pet Station is also located at the Village Ski Loft center. They are having a collaborative sale and fundraiser doggie wash. You can get your dog washed. You can also donate pet food for hungry dogs.
St Clare’s Montessori School moved to Incline Village and is held primarily in the St. Francis of Assisi church. The middle-school grades 7-9 are being held at St. Patrick’s Episcopal. This is a nice collaboration among the churches to bring another school to Incline.
IVCBA is tentatively going to sponsor a town hall to provide a bigger venue for Todd Lowe to explain his platform for the City of Incline. They have already gone to various groups. But it will be good for the larger community to have a chance to hear Todd’s presentation.
Is the Siebens-Binz 2022 Tahoe Forum still happening on Sept 16?
It’s on a Friday –not Saturday. Richard Branson and Guy Harvey, who is an ocean environmentalist, will be featured. There is a nominal charge of $20. I will get the flyer to attach to the recap. [not available yet]
Info and tickets at https://www.eventbrite.com/e/siebens-binz-2022-tahoe-forum-tickets-400429684967
Sara mentioned there were quite a few people at the meetings held by Chase International and the Resort At Tahoe developer EKN and Mr. Ebbie K. Nakhjavani. You can learn more about the collaboration between EKN and Chase at the website: revitalizetahoebiltmore.com.
I apologize for the broken transmission, I’m driving in the Carson Valley. I want to mention that on October 8 the WCSO Incline Substation will host a community fair and picnic from 10am to 2pm in Aspen Grove. We’ll be showcasing our apparatus and equipment. Other agencies will also be involved and some participants from the private sector and nonprofits. I encourage everyone to come out.
Ann Nichols – Crystal Bay Resident, North Tahoe Preservation Alliance Director
I’d just like to give some feedback on Boulder Bay that was presented at the Chase meeting. They have decided to reduce the size of the project. But we’re still concerned because they are keeping the same coverage and height allowance of 6-8 stories. They will have less hotel rooms. They wouldn’t let people take photos of the plans because they may change. All parking will be underground. We’re hopeful it will be a meaningful reduction.
I can provide a few more details: Ebbie said they are not interested in going through another approval process, so they will make the development fit the plan from 2011, which has already been approved. They’re still finalizing their plans so they haven’t submitted anything yet to TRPA and Washoe County. They mentioned they will be changing the buildings as follows:
• 275 hotel units will now drop to 118
• 65 residential units will now become 67
• onsite workforce 28 beds will remain 28
• offsite housing was approved for 10 units and remains 10 units
They don’t know how many employees they will need. They haven’t announced the resort corporate partner yet.
All parking will be underground and they plan 414 spaces.
I saw more drawings and renderings but they gave no further plans.
Howard Beckerman – Incline Village Resident, IVGID Senior Programs
Originally the plan was to have a park. I’ve never heard anything more about that.
They have a public area called “The Grove” where they’ll hold public events. I don’t know if that qualifies as a park.
Helen Neff – Incline Resident
Don’t they need to do another traffic study? The traffic from 2001 to now is so changed.
Apparently the way the permit process works is, once they get approval, they don’t have to go back to do more studies.
Is this for both TRPA and Washoe County? [Denise Davis – Yes]. What can we do about that?
Things have changed since the original approval. Kings Beach changed from 4 lanes to 2 lanes with roundabouts. They are in process of building more venues. They will be trucking 200,000 cubic yards of dirt out of Kings Beach. The world is not the same. We have to put pressure on TRPA to do their job according to established law.
They said originally they would have 59 housing units and they already built 18. So are the 67 they mentioned in addition? We have lots of questions. It would be great if we had a give-and-take conversation instead of a public-relations presentation. But please get involved. We need an updated traffic study.
Could the IV Mobility Committee become involved?
No, the committee is specific to the Incline Village Mobility Hub.
I see Kristina Hill is online. Do you have any insight on the process here?
Kristina Hill – Incline Village Resident, Board of Adjustment Former Member
I attended the meeting. My understanding is that they are submitting their new application at the end of September. Until then we don’t know the level of review that will be required. It’s going to be compared to the prior application.
It’s true that our communities have changed and the traffic is increased and our population has doubled. Ann will put pressure on Paul Nielson at TRPA to require as part of their review an updated traffic and impact report addressing greenhouse gases/trips and all the other TRPA environmental thresholds. TRPA has to make the finding that the plans are substantially the same as the prior application, or they will need to reapply with additional studies. They may decide there is no environmental impact, or that they need more information. But TRPA will determine this. The community can influence their decision.
Without the plans by EKN, who should Helen or we contact?
It’s hard to make comments now before submission of the plan. We saw their glossy PR slide show, but we have not actually seen anything on the books. As soon as they submit their plan for TRPA review, we’ll have more information on which to submit comments, and they will be taken more seriously. At that point TRPA will listen to us.
As a new project, does it have to go to TRPA and Washoe County again? Don’t they have to get the revised plans approved?
They have to demonstrate what their new plans are before both TRPA and Washoe County.
Ray Tulloch – Incline Village Resident, Candidate for IVGID Trustee
Based on simple observation, just based on numbers, if they dropped the number of hotel rooms but are retaining the same height and coverage, what are they doing? Are they creating larger rooms, and larger condos that still take up the same space?
Cliff Dobler – Incline Village Resident, Former IVGID Audit Committee Member
I want to make an observation about the Recreation Center expansion. IVGID generated a Master Plan in 2018 in which it laid out the additions to the Recreation Center most wanted by the community which included a warm-water pool, another gym, and relocating the IVGID administrative offices in order to free up the other site for affordable employee housing.
Now the Duffield Foundation throws $30 million in with their expansion plans, which are a complete change from the Master Plan. But we worked hard on that plan. Why doesn’t the community get a peek at the change? At the Recreation Center no one knows what’s going into the 33,000 square-foot addition.
I’ll make just one more comment on Boulder Bay. David Simon’s comment was that what sells are big expensive condos. I think that’s what we’re going to get. EKN paid $58 million for the property, which is a fortune.
Kari has posted the IVGID Recreation updates in the Chat Box.
There is info from Kari regarding the boat ramp opening and the golf times. They are having a Labor Day sale in the Pro Shop. There are lots of activities going on at IVGID venues. So if you’re bored – go to the website and get involved.
Also IVGID won an award for an environmental project.
That was the TRPA “Best in Basin” award for “Best Water Quality BMPs” (Best Management Practices)
Incline Village Golf Course Maintenance Drainage and Wash Pad Improvement Project by IVGID Public Works, PR Design and Engineering, Inc., and Cruz Construction Co.
As for library announcements, we have our next Tahoe Talk on the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution on Sept 13. Tahoe Tribune’s Rob Galloway will be there as well as a history professor from West Nevada College.
Our upcoming Tech Talk will be on drone technology. We have experts Mark Ganong and another officer, who is with Search and Rescue at the Washoe County Sheriff Office. They will explain the software behind Skydrop that allows drones to deliver packages to homes in Reno.
Shirley Appel – Incline Village Resident, HOA President, Republican Women’s Club Representative
We are having a community fashion show to raise money for scholarships for Incline High School students. It will be held Sept 13 from 11:30-3pm. The fashion-show models are all from our local area. There will also be a silent auction. One of the items is a 1- week stay in Maine at an oceanfront home. Another is a leather jacket with a fur collar. There are restaurant certificates. So please join us. RSVP at ivcbrw.org.
Jack Dalton, MD
I have a question for John who is on the committee for the Mobility Hub. Are they doing site work on the Old Elementary School, and is that okay?
Not that I know about.
Jack Dalton, MD
I just heard this today.
Our August meeting was cancelled. But they have put out the Request For Proposals (RFP) for the site evaluation.
Jack Dalton, MD
If they do that, that’s before the committee has made an assessment for the site?
That step hasn’t happened. The RFP is for the consultant who will begin the process of looking at different sites.
They have to hire the consultant.
Jack Dalton, MD
Will the consultant look at all of the sites?
No site has been preselected, so they will evaluate all sites.
I’d like to give another update on the Legislative Committee for the Review and Oversight of the Tahoe Regional Planning Agency and the Marlette Lake Water System.
This committee met Aug 31. I went in person to make public comment about what’s coming down the pike in terms of funding requests.
TRPA was set up in the Bi-state Compact to serve a variety of functions. One is to act as the entity to handle funding for projects and agencies around the lake. The Nevada Legislature is meeting next year. So this last meeting of the Committee was a workshop to review bill draft requests (BDRs) for the next legislative session in 2023.
TRPA is asking for funding for the Tahoe Transportation District. They’ve proposed a 7-7-7 funding plan – $7 million from the Federal government, $7 million from the two states California and Nevada, and $7 million from local entities. This was the focus of the last TTD meeting.
I went to the meeting because all this committee hears from is agencies. But they need to hear from us, the residents in Lake Tahoe. You can agree or disagree with their planned projects. But they need to hear from us.
A lot of money is available for grants for capital improvement projects (CIP)—the list of which includes TRPA and TTD capital projects like building the Incline mobility hub, creating Incline pathways, and so on. They want people to come into the Basin, park their cars, and take public transportation until they leave the Basin.
I suggested why not intercept the cars before they get into the Basin. Our own Commissioner reported that 42% of visitors to Tahoe are day visitors from adjacent communities. Those people’s behavior is easiest to change. They can take a bus from Reno to connect to TART. But a bus system is not a CIP project, so there’s not much funding available.
These are the kinds of things that the legislators need to hear. What was your experience taking the bus? So I urge you to give your input. I don’t know when the next committee hearing is; the Nevada Legislature will begin in February. I’ll keep following up. But this is how TRPA and TTD get their funding. The committee includes 6 legislators, who are very approachable.
Didn’t they try a few years ago bringing visitors to Incline from Reno’s Summit Mall? But the vans were small and only held 6 people.
That was a pilot project that unfortunately started in 2020, which was the first year of COVID protocols. They could only run small vans that held just a group of people who housed together. So it was a very limited service. When I talked to Reno Transportation Commission (RTC), they said they didn’t have funding, didn’t have drivers, and had no equipment, so were not continuing the service.
I heard TART Connect lost funding and will not be running after Labor Day until next April. Is that correct?
I can contact Andy Chapman who is in charge of TART Connect and ask. [Follow-up: Only the Truckee micro-transit service is ending, not the TART Connect in Incline. The Incline service will be switching to fall service hours after Labor Day. Funding for the Incline micro-transit fall service is already in place.]
All this is free?
There is a lot of funding for operations but not for capital improvement projects.
I’d just like to comment on the Old Incline Elementary School bus operation. For the last week or 2 weeks, the only time the parking lot is being used is on the weekend. The other days I see only 1-3 cars in the parking lot. But the East Shore Express bus goes back and forth with no one on it.
Aaron Vanderpool – Incline Village Resident
I give that comment a thumbs-up. I live in that area and I notice what Shirley said too. The East Shore Express bus is traveling mostly empty on the weekdays.
Yolanda Knaak – Incline Village Resident, Candidate for IVGID Trustee
I have presented my concerns at a CAB meeting. The whole concept is that one of our big problems is employees having trouble because it is too expensive to drive up here and they can’t afford long-term rentals. I suggest that they begin buses from Carson and Reno that travel once in the morning, once in the afternoon, and once in the evening. Then people could take the bus to work and take the bus home. I have thought about this a great deal, and it would be an effective way to help out our businesses.
We will have an IVGID candidate forum on October 13th at the Chateau. All four of our candidates for IVGID Trustee will be there. So mark your calendars for the evening of October 13th.
Jack Dalton, MD
Will it have the same format?
I don’t have that information nailed down yet.
I’m Yolanda Knaak, candidate for IVGID Trustee. I have a great website with a great platform at electyolandaknaak.com. If you want to learn about me or give me support, please email me at email@example.com. And I want to say please don’t take my signs down. People who won their primaries were allowed to keep their signs up. But some people took down my signs. I’m looking forward to putting up my signs again in September. Thanks for not taking them down. And I appreciate all who have helped me, and anyone who would like to volunteer. Thank you.
Thank you, Denise, and the others with the IVCB Community Forum for again scheduling a candidate forum. And no-thanks to IVGID for not paying for the Chateau. But thanks for organizing the opportunity. In terms of the election, we were quiet over the summer but will now gear up again. You can go to my website Raytulloch4ivgidtrustee.com to see my platform details. I appreciate all the support I’ve received from a wide section of the community— not just special interest groups.
I’d like to say that I agree the trustees should not simply drop the Master Plan when something new pops up. I agree with Jack Dalton—the neighborhood meeting is mandatory. We are compromising the original plans of the Recreation expansion. We don’t want to turn down money, but we don’t want to restrict our own plans either.
I won’t continue a stump speech. But I do want to say that the beach access after Ordinance 7 updates has greatly improved—massively improved. I hope everyone will have a safe Labor Day weekend and enjoy the rest of the summer. Again my website is firstname.lastname@example.org. Thanks.
Todd Lowe – Village League to Save Incline Assets, President
I encourage everyone to go to our website—CityofInclineVillage.com—for information on the process of becoming our own city. Right now I describe us as being in “high gear” regarding staff work. You probably won’t hear all we’re doing. But we have 7 attorneys right now working for us, getting our t’s crossed and our i’s dotted.
The best way is to go to our website and give us your input. We want to know what our residents would like more, better, or different with County services—whether those services are senior transportation, waterfront patrols, planning inspections, whatever. Just keep giving us your comments. We’re listening. And also let us know if things with the County are working well – and we don’t want to mess them up and we want to keep it the same or just change it somehow. We want to do the best and most complete job of generating the plan based on what the community wants and needs.
Meanwhile we’ve been giving presentations to community groups and providing information. Linda Offerdahl and IVCBA are planning a town hall for us on Sept 27 at the Chateau at 6pm, a venue that will be open to all.
People would like to have something to munch on…
We already have that presentation but we’re refining it.
I’m getting questions from residents…
Put your questions up on the website. This afternoon we’ll be answering questions and expanding the FAQ page. We’ll notify everyone as we make updates.
I’m getting questions from residents about the beach and about the required signatures and the process.
We first have to take our plan to the State level. The State will analyze the financial information we provide and issue an opinion on whether they are feasible or not. Then the County will be notified.
It’s a difficult path, but it relies on us doing a good job. We will get our plan of costs and revenues. We do the plan. Then they decide, “Is this viable?” They come back and say “yes” or “no.” So that’s why we have all the staff work being done. They don’t make the plan. They just give a thumbs-up or down. I think the State Department of Taxation looks at it. If they give a thumbs-up, they notify Washoe County, and the County must put out the ballot for the referendum.
I’d like to suggest that when you update the FAQ you add the date of the update.
Yes, we’ll do that.
Because some answers have changed.
Also, if you ask questions, please make them based on facts.
What’s the vision for the city? I think that’s what citizens want. They just want a clear vision.
We will explain what the city can do. Then before the petition, we will explain what it will do. But as far as a so-called vision, we are depending upon input from people like yourself. We’re not pushing something onto the community.
The feedback I’m getting is that they want to know what’s going to happen.
Okay, I see no more raised hands online. Don’t forget the dog wash and annual ski sale at Village Ski Loft, the Rotary duck drop and the drone shows. Stay safe and have a wonderful Labor Day holiday. Thanks for being here and participating. See you in 2 weeks.
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Washoe County Sheriff Office (WCSO)
non-emergency dispatch 775-785-9276
SR 431 and SR 28 road construction info
IV/CB Citizens Advisory Board (CAB) meeting – Sept 6
application for CAB alternate position
TTD Program Implementation Committee meeting – Sept 8
Board of County Commissioners (BCC) general info
next meeting will be Sept 13
TRPA Advisory Planning Commission meeting – Sept 14
TRPA Hearings Officer meeting – Sept 15
Special TTD/C Board meeting – Sept 16
IV mobility committee
next meeting will be Sept 26
Revitalize Tahoe Biltmore – a collaboration between EKN Development Group and Chase International to update the community on the redevelopment of the Tahoe Biltmore site
Comments regarding the new IVGID BOT meeting summary
Washoe County monkeypox info
Village League “City of Incline Village” website
IV/CB Community 1st meetings and community info
IVCBA (Incline Village Crystal Bay Community and Business Association)
Legislative Committee for the Review and Oversight of the Tahoe Regional Planning Agency and the Marlette Lake Water System – Nevada Legislature
09:13:01 From ann nichols : I can hear Sara
09:13:42 From Edie’s iPhone : I can hear Sara and I’m on my phone.
09:15:45 From Ronda Tycer : Can’t hear Captain Corey
09:20:42 From Washoe County Libraries : Hi Folks, I apologize for all of the audio visual issues this morning. We have wifi here at the library but we cannot get our TV and audio connected to the meeting room equipment. I believe our microphone is working and we can see online attendees on the laptop but not up on the TV. Capt. Solferino, I believe the audio was cutting out on your end. People here were asking exactly when Rt 28 will be closed for dynamite removal.
09:25:52 From Washoe County Libraries : revitalizetahoebiltmore.com
09:26:22 From Washoe County Libraries : 10/8 – WCSO Community Picnic, 10-2, Aspen Grove
09:30:38 From IVGID Communications : https://www.yourtahoeplace.com/news/ivgid-awarded-2022-best-in-basin-award-by-trpa
09:31:33 From IVGID Communications : Golf Courses update: https://www.yourtahoeplace.com/news/fall-course-maintenance-schedule
09:33:04 From IVGID Communications : Ski Beach Boat Ramp updated hours: 7am-7pm
09:35:05 From ann nichols : go to NTPAC.org and sign our petition. North Tahoe Preservation Alliance.
09:39:09 From David Simon : Condos are much larger
09:40:27 From ann nichols : Paul Nielsen at TRPA.gov –email@example.com
09:42:03 From ann nichols : Sadly Washoe County is totally on board with EKN. So is TRPA it appears.
09:44:49 From Washoe County Libraries : ivcbrw.org
09:57:45 From Washoe County Libraries : firstname.lastname@example.org
10:01:14 From Washoe County Libraries : raytulloch4ivgidtrustee.com
10:01:52 From Washoe County Libraries : cityofinclinevillage.com
Jack Dalton, MD
Patricia Moser Morris